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Украинский вопрос
Одно из самых сильных косвенных свидетельств координации между избирательной кампанией Трампа и российскими властями - эпизод, который приключился на съезде республиканской партии в июле 2016.
The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/trump-campaign-guts-gops-anti-russia-stance-on-ukraine/2016/07/18/98adb3b0-4cf3-11e6-a7d8-13d06b37f256_story.html
Представители Трампа, которые присутствовали в качестве наблюдателей при подготовке Платформы республиканской партии неожиданно вмешались, чтобы добиться исключения из Платформы пункта о поставке оружия Украине для защиты от российской агрессии.
Что в этом странного?
1. Платформа партии - декларативный документ. От того, что в нем поменяли какой-то текст, не означает, что от этого изменится политика или, например, голосование в Конгрессе.
2. Для того, чтобы добиться нужного изменения, представители Трампа потратили некоторые усилия, встречаясь с делегатами за закрытыми дверями и выкручивая им руки.
3. Это было единственное изменение, которого они потребовали. В платформе осталась фраза про санкции:
We support maintaining and, if warranted, increasing sanctions, together with our allies, against Russia unless and until Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity are fully restored.
4. Когда журналисты их поймали за руку, Трамп и его комманда отчаянно отрицали и выкручивались.
Manafort said on NBC’s Meet the Press this past weekend that the change in language on Ukraine “absolutely did not come from the Trump campaign.” But this account is contradicted by four sources in the room, both for and against the language.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/03/trump-campaign-changed-ukraine-platform-lied-about-it.html
STEPHANOPOULOS: Then why did you soften the GOP platform on Ukraine?
TRUMP: I wasn't involved in that. Honestly, I was not involved.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Your people were.
TRUMP: Yes. I was not involved in that. I'd like to -- I'd have to take a look at it. But I was not involved in that.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Do you know what they did?
TRUMP: They softened it, I heard, but I was not involved.
STEPHANOPOULOS: They took away the part of the platform calling for the provision of lethal weapons to Ukraine to defend themselves.
Why is that a good idea?
TRUMP: Well, look, you know, I have my own ideas. He's not going into Ukraine, OK?
Just so you understand. He's not going to go into Ukraine, all right?
You can mark it down and you can put it down, you can take it anywhere you want.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-donald-trump-vice-president-joe-biden/story?id=41020870
Какое может быть разумное объяснение этому эпизоду кроме того, что изменения в Платформе партии были расчитаны не на американскую аудиторию, а на российских партнеров, перед которыми выполнялись некоторые договоренности?
О существовании подобных договоренностей упоминается в британском досье на страницах 7-8:
Inter alia, Source E, acknowledged that the Russian regime had been behind the recent leak of embarrassing e-mail messages, emanating from the Democratic National Committee (DNC), to the WikiLeaks platform. The reason for using WikiLeaks was "plausible deniability” and the operation had been conducted with the full knowledge and support of Trump and senior members of his campaign team. In return the Trump team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue.
Взломанная электронная почта DNC была выложена в Викиликс 22 июля 2016, сразу после завершения республиканского съезда.
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WALLACE: I want to ask you about two very specific questions briefly so we can move on to domestic policy. We now know that the Trump’s national security advisor, Mike Flynn, had several conversations with the Russian ambassador, Kislyak, just at the time that President Obama was announcing new sanctions to the hacking of the U.S. election against Russia.
Number one: did Mike Flynn ever discuss lifting sanctions in any of those conversations? Do you know?
PENCE: I talked to General Flynn yesterday, and the conversations that took place at that time were not in any way related to the new U.S. sanctions against Russia or the expulsion of diplomats.
WALLACE: All right.
Second question: can you flatly deny -- because this continues to be out there -- that there were any contact at any point in the campaign between Mr. Trump's associates and Russian operatives, including cutouts, as we know, about the hacking of the Democrats during the election?
PENCE: This -- you know, some of this derives from this opposition research memo, I guess, Chris, that made its way around the Internet. There was about 24 hours were Michael Cohen, who has worked in the Trump Organization for many years, was accused for having a meeting in Prague, and finally, some news organizations did a little checking and found out that it was a different Michael Cohen. And Michael himself has never actually been to Prague.
WALLACE: But I do want to ask you a question.
PENCE: He was at a baseball game with his son in August of last year. So --
WALLACE: I understand that. But there’s been other talk, and in fact, if I may, senators specifically asked FBI Director Comey about that. He refused to answer.
So, I’m asking a direct question: was there any contact in any way between Trump or his associates and the Kremlin or cutouts they had?
PENCE: I joined this campaign in the summer, and I can tell you that all the contact by the Trump campaign and associates was with the American people. We were fully engaged with taking his message to make America great again all across this country. That’s why he won in a landslide election.
(CROSSTALK)
WALLACE: -- if there were any contacts, sir, I’m just trying to get an answer.
PENCE: Yes. I -- of course not. Why would there be any contacts between the campaign?
Chris, the -- this is all a distraction, and it's all part of a narrative to delegitimize the election and to question the legitimacy of this presidency, the American people see right through it.
WALLACE: OK.
http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2017/01/15/mike-pence-on-rep-lewis-comments-us-russia-relation-brennan-on-russia-dossier/ (http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2017/01/15/mike-pence-on-rep-lewis-comments-us-russia-relation-brennan-on-russia-dossier/)